us. you are very gone. you're much younger than i am. just go where same age. >> host: thank you ahmed janet. janet cohen and bill cohen, two wonderful people, two wonderful friends. back in 2008, you pull together a very moving conference. you brought together a journalist, social scientist, people with civil rights background. well, i was pleased to be there to participate, to talk about, to discuss, to debate the issue that raises the reconciliation in america. you have prepared a beautiful book, "race & reconciliation in america," an outstanding piece.